{"id":15989,"date":"2025-01-01T14:41:24","date_gmt":"2025-01-01T13:41:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/?p=15989"},"modified":"2025-09-02T22:50:10","modified_gmt":"2025-09-02T20:50:10","slug":"interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview With An Amsterdam Brothel Chairwoman"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Justine_le_Clercq_On_The_Amsterdam_Brothel_Business\"><\/span>Justine le Clercq On The Amsterdam Brothel Business<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em>Back in 2016 it was announced that the Startfoundation &#8211; an independent social development company &#8211; would start working on setting up the brothel My Red Light in Amsterdam &#8211; better known as the &#8216;municipality brothel&#8217;. <\/em><\/p><div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_82_2 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table des mati\u00e8res<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Toggle Table of Content\"><span class=\"ez-toc-js-icon-con\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" 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href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#Who_is_Justine_le_Clercq_and_in_what_ways_are_you_involved_with_Amsterdams_Red_Light_District\" >Who is Justine le Clercq and in what ways are you involved with Amsterdam&#8217;s Red Light District?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#For_how_long_did_you_yourself_work_in_that_world_as_a_sex_worker\" >For how long did you yourself work in that world as a sex worker?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#Did_you_work_in_Amsterdams_Red_Light_District\" >Did you work in Amsterdam\u2019s Red Light District?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#What_made_you_decide_to_become_a_Amsterdam_brothel_owner\" >What made you decide to become a Amsterdam brothel owner?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#And_whats_the_difference_between_your_Amsterdam_brothel_and_a_regular_commercial_Amsterdam_brothel\" >And what\u2019s the difference between your Amsterdam brothel and a regular commercial Amsterdam brothel?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#You_have_14_window_in_your_Amsterdam_brothel_how_many_sex_workers_are_using_your_windows_at_the_moment\" >You have 14 window in your Amsterdam brothel, how many sex workers are using your windows at the moment?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#Windows_are_mainly_rented_out_in_the_evening_So_I_assume_the_14_sex_workers_mainly_work_in_the_evening_How_much_do_they_rent_during_the_day\" >Windows are mainly rented out in the evening. So I assume the 14 sex workers mainly work in the evening. How much do they rent during the day?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-9\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#And_all_those_sex_workers_are_registered_as_homeworkers_at_the_Dutch_chamber_of_commerce\" >And all those sex workers are registered as homeworkers at the Dutch chamber of commerce?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-10\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#So_when_you_register_under_%E2%80%9Cremaining_services%E2%80%9D_then_you_can_still%E2%80%A6_what_is_the_difference_You_go_to_the_chamber_of_commerce_and_you_register_as_other_services_than_you_should_be_able_to_do_homework_and_stand_behind_a_window_right\" >So when you register under \u201cremaining services\u201d then you can still&#8230; what is the difference? You go to the chamber of commerce and you register as other services than you should be able to do homework and stand behind a window, right?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-11\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#So_it_has_nothing_to_do_with_registration_but_purely_with_personal_preference\" >So it has nothing to do with registration but purely with personal preference?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-12\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#How_does_Amsterdam_forbid_this\" >How does Amsterdam forbid this?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-13\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#How_do_sex_workers_find_the_%E2%80%9CMy_Red_Light%E2%80%9D_brothel\" >How do sex workers find the &#8220;My Red Light&#8221; brothel?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-14\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#And_what_kind_of_screening_or_preliminary_procedure_does_your_Amsterdam_brothel_have_before_you_rent_out_a_window_to_a_sex_worker\" >And what kind of screening or preliminary procedure does your Amsterdam brothel have before you rent out a window to a sex worker?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-15\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#What_kind_of_regulations_are_there_for_Amsterdam_brothel_owners_like_yourself\" >What kind of regulations are there for Amsterdam brothel owners like yourself?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-16\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#The_important_ones\" >The important ones!<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-17\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#Do_the_sex_workers_who_rent_your_window_brothels_have_to_be_tested_for_STDs\" >Do the sex workers who rent your window brothels have to be tested for STD\u2019s?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-18\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#And_how_are_things_going_now_with_My_Red_Light_your_Amsterdam_brothel\" >And how are things going now with My Red Light, your Amsterdam brothel?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-19\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#Whats_your_opinion_on_project_1012_and_the_closure_of_window_brothels_by_the_City_of_Amsterdam_in_the_Red_Light_District\" >What\u2019s your opinion on project 1012 and the closure of window brothels by the City of Amsterdam in the Red Light District?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-20\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#So_does_project_1012_directly_and_indirectly_ensure_that_the_sex_workers_who_work_with_you_get_fewer_customers\" >So does project 1012 directly and indirectly ensure that the sex workers who work with you get fewer customers?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-21\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#I_think_that_when_most_people_think_of_prostitution_one_of_the_first_things_that_comes_to_their_minds_is_illegal_or_forced_prostitution_How_do_you_prevent_women_from_being_forced_to_work_at_your_Amsterdam_brothel\" >I think that when most people think of prostitution, one of the first things that comes to their minds is illegal or forced prostitution. How do you prevent women from being forced to work at your Amsterdam brothel?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-22\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/interview-amsterdam-brothel-owner\/#What_do_you_think_should_be_improved_in_the_Red_Light_District\" >What do you think should be improved in the Red Light District?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n\n<p><em>This <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/amsterdam-brothels\/\">Amsterdam brothel<\/a> was created at the initiative of the former <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Eberhard_van_der_Laan\">mayor Eberhard van der Laan<\/a>, with the assistance of a large number of renowned companies. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The brothel has no one owner, but is a foundation. We did an interview with the current chairwomen Justine le Clercq about the Amsterdam brothel business and the Red Light District.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16019 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Owner-Justine-le-Clercq.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam Brothel Owner Justine le Clercq\" width=\"800\" height=\"899\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Owner-Justine-le-Clercq.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Owner-Justine-le-Clercq-267x300.jpg 267w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Owner-Justine-le-Clercq-768x863.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><em>Justine le Clercq in front of My Red Light &#8211; a new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/amsterdam-brothels\/\">Amsterdam brothel<\/a>.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Who_is_Justine_le_Clercq_and_in_what_ways_are_you_involved_with_Amsterdams_Red_Light_District\"><\/span>Who is Justine le Clercq and in what ways are you involved with Amsterdam&#8217;s Red Light District?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J (Justine):<\/strong> I have no idea who I am; I hope to have figured it out before I pass away! How did I get involved with the Red Light District? A friend who works in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/10-best-agencies-for-escorts-in-amsterdam\/\">escort service<\/a> directed me to it.<\/p>\n<p>And because of my own past, I have always followed the developments. And I\u2019ve always thought; well with my personal experience, if there ever comes a project where it makes sense to use my own expertise and skills, then I will do that, but not just anything.<\/p>\n<p>When the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/myredlight.nl\" rel=\"noopener\">My Red Light Foundation<\/a> was founded, when they almost opened, they needed a press officer for 5 hours a week. Then I thought that&#8217;s okay, because not many people want to be in the media, but I was already in the media because I&#8217;m an author and I organize exhibitions and so I was already everywhere in the media, so I\u2019m used to it.<\/p>\n<p>And I have a history of drug addiction and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/information\/prostitution-in-holland\/\">la prostitution<\/a> etc. So I thought, I felt called to it, let me put it that way.<\/p>\n<p>Three weeks later I was chairwoman of the board of an Amsterdam brothel, but that&#8217;s the way things go!<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"For_how_long_did_you_yourself_work_in_that_world_as_a_sex_worker\"><\/span>For how long did you yourself work in that world as a sex worker?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> Three years.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Did_you_work_in_Amsterdams_Red_Light_District\"><\/span>Did you work in Amsterdam\u2019s Red Light District?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> No, I was an addict, which is of course a form of prostitution that isn\u2019t usually practiced in Amsterdam Red Light District. It was in the 1980\u2019s when there was a lot of drug addiction in the Netherlands.<\/p>\n<p>I lived in The Hague &#8211; a major city in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/10-things-didnt-know-netherlands\/\">Netherlands<\/a> &#8211; and the first 3 years that I was hooked I made ends meet by hustling, which meant stealing stuff.<\/p>\n<p>When I turned 18 I thought to myself that if I got arrested, I\u2019d have a criminal record for the rest of my life. I was very aware of that in one way or another, but I could not stop using <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/news\/10-things-didnt-know-drugs-holland\/\">drugs<\/a> either, so I just started doing prostitution the day I turned 18.<\/p>\n<p>Quite shrewd actually!<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16001 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Windows.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam Brothel Windows\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Windows.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Windows-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Windows-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_made_you_decide_to_become_a_Amsterdam_brothel_owner\"><\/span>What made you decide to become a Amsterdam brothel owner?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> No, that was not a decision. No, absolutely not. I never expected that I would do this. I\u2019m not a career planner anyway, but this would have been complete out of the box thinking.<\/p>\n<p>No, I started at My Red Light for the press officer position, I felt called because not many ladies who\u2019ve worked in the sex industry want their face in the newspaper or on TV.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m an easy talker, I was already in the media and I also have the kind of career that I can\u2019t be disappointed anymore. You are a little younger yourself, but you will understand that as you get older it becomes easier to talk about your past.<\/p>\n<p>When I was twenty it was of course a completely different story compared to now.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>&#8220;I feel obligated towards my own past.&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes, it\u2019s a kind of commitment that I feel, I feel obligated towards my own past. That may sound a bit melodramatic, maybe it is, but you have to envision that when you were addicted in the 80\u2019s that a lot of people died.<\/p>\n<p>A lot of people died from aids, a lot of people were destroyed by their past and had no chance to rebuild a good life. I had a chance; I have an exceptionally good life.<\/p>\n<p>Because of this you feel a kind of obligation to do something with it. So I came for the press officer position but when I got there there was actually hardly a board, and a foundation has to have a board.<\/p>\n<p>When we opened it turned out to be a bit of a rudderless foundation. And then I was asked to be chairman of the board. I thought it was just a temporary position; well temporary has now been more than 1.5 years.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16099 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-interview.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam brothel interview\" width=\"800\" height=\"1120\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-interview.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-interview-214x300.jpg 214w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-interview-768x1075.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-interview-731x1024.jpg 731w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"And_whats_the_difference_between_your_Amsterdam_brothel_and_a_regular_commercial_Amsterdam_brothel\"><\/span>And what\u2019s the difference between your Amsterdam brothel and a regular commercial Amsterdam brothel?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> The most apparent difference is that we don\u2019t make a profit. When we make a profit, then it goes to the foundation and not to the people who work there or the owner.<\/p>\n<p>There is no owner at a foundation, if you have a commercial company and you\u2019ve made a 100, &#8211; euro profit, it goes to the owner. At a foundation the money goes to the foundation.<\/p>\n<p>The foundation consists of a board and it\u2019s checked and also obliged to be consulted by all people involved in the foundation. In My Red Light\u2019s case they\u2019re all the sex workers.<\/p>\n<p>They advise and say what they want to do with the money. So together we decide to buy new towels with this 100, &#8211; euro. Or are we going to improve the lighting? What do we do with the money? That is the most obvious difference.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>&#8220;Together we decide\u00a0\u2026 that is the most obvious difference.&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There are of course more differences because if you set up a foundation in the Netherlands you have to determine on paper what goals you want to achieve.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not necessary with a for profit company. The goal of a company is simply to make a profit, if they have other goals then that is nice (if they\u2019re nice goals), but it isn\u2019t necessary.<\/p>\n<p>For a foundation it\u2019s obligated. So we have a number of goals that state that we want to contribute to normalizing and decriminalizing the sex industry.<\/p>\n<p>We want to work together to develop the potential of the women, if they want to go to school, if they want to learn a profession. We want to offer them that opportunity and that they are also more proud of themselves.<\/p>\n<p>We want to encourage them to take good care of themselves and be able work in a beautiful environment. We want to encourage them to lead another life alongside the industry.<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16100 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-owner-Interview.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam brothel owner Interview\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-owner-Interview.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-owner-Interview-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-owner-Interview-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"You_have_14_window_in_your_Amsterdam_brothel_how_many_sex_workers_are_using_your_windows_at_the_moment\"><\/span>You have 14 window in your Amsterdam brothel, how many sex workers are using your windows at the moment?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> You\u2019ll always have sex workers who have a permanent contract and that usually means that they have a window for 5 or 6 days a week.<\/p>\n<p>Well, if you count then you already have 14 women who work 5 or 6 days. On the other days in the evening you have the freelancers.<\/p>\n<p>These ladies are registered with us, so we have had a conversation with them and they\u2019ve worked with us in the past. We have a total of 135 registered freelancers but we obviously don\u2019t have enough room for 135 persons.<\/p>\n<p>Some ladies have worked with us from the start but there are also a lot who travel around: Somebody leaves at a certain point and another lady replaces her full time spot for a couple of months.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Windows_are_mainly_rented_out_in_the_evening_So_I_assume_the_14_sex_workers_mainly_work_in_the_evening_How_much_do_they_rent_during_the_day\"><\/span>Windows are mainly rented out in the evening. So I assume the 14 sex workers mainly work in the evening. How much do they rent during the day?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> During the day we have 1 to 3 ladies who work, which is very few.<\/p>\n<p>If you walk in the Red Light District during the day you\u2019ll see that there are very few ladies at work. That\u2019s because there are hardly any customers during the day.<\/p>\n<p>There is so much tourism that showing up as a customer during the day is actually too annoying. When a customer does come by it will be in the evening hours, in the dark.<\/p>\n<p>You see this during the summer months; the ladies start their shifts at a much later time because otherwise it is too light outside.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>&#8220;So all the brothels are pretty empty at this time (during the day), and that\u2019s a huge loss.&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16010\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Area.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam Brothel Area\" width=\"652\" height=\"435\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Area.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Area-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Area-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 652px) 100vw, 652px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So all the Amsterdam brothels are pretty empty at this time (during the day), and that\u2019s a huge loss.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s also a loss because we only have a small number of issued permits for the sex industry and they are becoming ever more scarce. So there are fewer places for the ladies to work.<\/p>\n<p>We would prefer to rent out our empty rooms to homeworkers during the day. These are ladies who do not want to stand behind a window and do not want to work in a private club but prefer to just rent a room to work in.<\/p>\n<p>That isn\u2019t allowed in the Netherlands, a lady can only work in the licensed sector. So that means a building or a place that has an issued municipality permit.<\/p>\n<p>Amsterdam brothel operators are banned from renting out their rooms to ladies who don\u2019t want to stand behind the window.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"And_all_those_sex_workers_are_registered_as_homeworkers_at_the_Dutch_chamber_of_commerce\"><\/span>And all those sex workers are registered as homeworkers at the Dutch chamber of commerce?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> No, all sex workers are registered under \u201cremaining services\u201d.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"So_when_you_register_under_%E2%80%9Cremaining_services%E2%80%9D_then_you_can_still%E2%80%A6_what_is_the_difference_You_go_to_the_chamber_of_commerce_and_you_register_as_other_services_than_you_should_be_able_to_do_homework_and_stand_behind_a_window_right\"><\/span>So when you register under \u201cremaining services\u201d then you can still&#8230; what is the difference? You go to the chamber of commerce and you register as other services than you should be able to do homework and stand behind a window, right?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> No, it\u2019s an important difference. A homeworker is not a window sex worker. A homeworker will never stand behind a window.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"So_it_has_nothing_to_do_with_registration_but_purely_with_personal_preference\"><\/span>So it has nothing to do with registration but purely with personal preference?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> Personal preference. You can do anything in the sex industry and everyone has his or her own preference.<\/p>\n<p>Some like to hang from a pole, whilst others do escort with a hotel stay, another finds the Amsterdam brothel more comfortable or the streets.<\/p>\n<p>Everything has it advantages and disadvantages; it\u2019s a personal consideration. Working from home is forbidden whilst prostitution itself is a legal profession.<\/p>\n<p>A physiotherapist can start a practice from home; a masseur can start a practice from home. Everyone can start a practice from home. I myself and others also work from home.<\/p>\n<p>But for a prostitute this is forbidden. So what can she do? She has to find a workplace that already has a permit. Well, those are the Amsterdam brothel operators, the private clubs or the escort services.<\/p>\n<p>But what if you don\u2019t want one of those three options? What if you just want to work at home? We have everything here in the Red Light District but the windows are empty during the day.<\/p>\n<p>Why not rent out these beautiful rooms that are vacant to ladies who prefer to arrange their own business. It\u2019s a great solution? But to this day the City of Amsterdam makes it impossible because it forbids it.<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16101 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-street.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam brothel street\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-street.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-street-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-street-768x513.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"How_does_Amsterdam_forbid_this\"><\/span>How does Amsterdam forbid this?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> The permit of a Amsterdam brothel operator states that a sex worker can only rent a room if the she solicits her customers through the window.<\/p>\n<p>And that\u2019s very strict. It\u2019s even so strict that a sex worker cannot advertise on the Internet because she can only solicit her customers through the window.<\/p>\n<p>And then you think what is this absurdity? This cannot be right? But yes, it\u2019s true. It really is unworkable in the digital age and it\u2019s also unrealistic.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"How_do_sex_workers_find_the_%E2%80%9CMy_Red_Light%E2%80%9D_brothel\"><\/span>How do sex workers find the &#8220;My Red Light&#8221; brothel?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s not a question of advertising (laughter).<\/p>\n<p>Ladies tell each other, of course, which brothels there are and every Amsterdam brothel, every operator, has its advantages and disadvantages.<\/p>\n<p>An advantage could be, for example, the place where the window is located, but there can also be disadvantage: One room is more beautiful than the other room.<\/p>\n<p>There are advantages and disadvantages so ladies look at which operator they want to work with.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>&#8220;There\u2019s a shortage of window brothels in the Red Light District.&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s also the question of available places. They might want to work somewhere but if there are no windows available then it stops and you have to go to another Amsterdam brothel operator.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a shortage of window brothels in the Red Light District. We can say that the ladies who start working with us tend to not want to leave.<\/p>\n<p>That is of course because we have a fantastic Amsterdam brothel! Much better than anyone else (laughter)! We have beautiful rooms and we are very nice, so.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16005 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-brothel-My-Red-Light.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam brothel My Red Light\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-brothel-My-Red-Light.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-brothel-My-Red-Light-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-brothel-My-Red-Light-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"And_what_kind_of_screening_or_preliminary_procedure_does_your_Amsterdam_brothel_have_before_you_rent_out_a_window_to_a_sex_worker\"><\/span>And what kind of screening or preliminary procedure does your Amsterdam brothel have before you rent out a window to a sex worker?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> Exactly the same as every other Amsterdam brothel. We all follow the same procedures.<\/p>\n<p>Through an introductory meeting which consists of an official section where you have to check all papers and an unofficial part where you, you just want to know who you let enter in your house.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s what it comes down to. You cannot ask a too intimate question, of course, that is not the intention at all, but you want to know; gosh you want to rent here, who are you then?<\/p>\n<p>Some important questions are: are you already in the sex industry or not? Because it\u2019s quite something when someone knocks on your door and wants to start. That\u2019s quite a different story.<\/p>\n<p>Have you already stood behind a window? Have you been standing behind a window in a city like Amsterdam or a place like the Red Light District? And then: how is your situation? Are you married do you have children etc.? So here are a few important questions.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>&#8220;We also try to gauge whether someone is a confident person\u00a0\u2026 you do have to have a certain character to stand behind a window &#8220;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We also try to gauge whether someone is a confident person. And you notice that if they have doubts themselves and they work a night that they disappear afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>You have to have real courage and a backbone to stand here. At night there are thousands of people passing by, half of them nice and the other half are totally, well, let&#8217;s say removed from any form of decency, and that\u2019s an understatement, so it isn\u2019t easy.<\/p>\n<p>You do have to have certain character to stand behind a window in the Red Light District. And then in the weeks after their first night you try to have a lot of contact to see if things are going well.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16124 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-Red-Light-District-Window-Brothels.jpg\" alt=\"Window brothels in Amsterdam Red Light District\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-Red-Light-District-Window-Brothels.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-Red-Light-District-Window-Brothels-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-Red-Light-District-Window-Brothels-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_kind_of_regulations_are_there_for_Amsterdam_brothel_owners_like_yourself\"><\/span>What kind of regulations are there for Amsterdam brothel owners like yourself?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> A LOT (laughs), which ones do you want to hear?<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"The_important_ones\"><\/span>The important ones!<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> We have a lot of rules! And you know what\u2019s so funny, they also make special rules just for us. Amsterdam brothel have been legalised since 2000, and that should have meant that it would have become a normal legal business, but that doesn\u2019t mean that we are treated like it. The hospitality industry also suffers from this, they also have special rules that other entrepreneurs don\u2019t have. Well, we have those hospitality rules too! You have to think of very strict hygiene rules, rules on cooperation and the signaling of suspicions of coercion and human trafficking. That is a very complicated regulation because it\u2019s completely unclear who should do that, how you should do that and what actually has to be reported. Anyway, we do have that obligation. We have all kinds of obligations regarding the staff who work at our office. We have all kinds of obligations, we can\u2019t just do something else with a room. We also rent it out sometimes for an art project or the like, well of course you need all kinds of event permits. We must of course cooperate with the police. There is also regulation and legislation around that. Well do you have some more time? (laughs)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16007\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Window-Brothel-Street.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam brothel street\" width=\"800\" height=\"637\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Window-Brothel-Street.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Window-Brothel-Street-300x239.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Window-Brothel-Street-768x611.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Do_the_sex_workers_who_rent_your_window_brothels_have_to_be_tested_for_STDs\"><\/span>Do the sex workers who rent your window brothels have to be tested for STD\u2019s?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> No, that isn\u2019t mandatory. No, mandatory testing isn\u2019t possible in the Netherlands either. You can insist, and yes, that&#8217;s a nice thing about the Netherlands, the care and service and the standards are so high that everyone does it. We know from other countries and big cities where there is a lot of prostitution that if there isn\u2019t a norm for being very hygienic and getting tested that it gets neglected pretty fast. But here it comes from the government. It\u2019s very good, it\u2019s great. Girls do not have to go anywhere for a test. The care providers of PNG (Prostitution and Health project) just drop by with their suitcases full of things and they just ask; hey, shall we test you? So yes, everyone here gets tested. And of course it\u2019s also true that when you come here as a new foreign sex worker and you see that everyone gets tested, then you are going to do it yourself too.<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16102 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-location.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam brothel location\" width=\"800\" height=\"1119\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-location.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-location-214x300.jpg 214w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-location-768x1074.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-brothel-location-732x1024.jpg 732w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"And_how_are_things_going_now_with_My_Red_Light_your_Amsterdam_brothel\"><\/span>And how are things going now with My Red Light, your Amsterdam brothel?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> It has been exciting for us from the start, and that\u2019s actually because on the day of the opening a number of things had gone differently than what was intented on paper. We had a false start as a foundation and as a company. We had to work extra hard, but on the way we encountered even more difficulties. So it actually means that at this moment the Amsterdam brothel My Red Light is fighting to survive every day. What caused the false start? The business plan was based on two sources of income: window brothel rents during the evenings and homeworker rents during the days. We did not get a permit for homeworkers, so half of our income fell away. The second false start was that we\u2019d hired employees for office services, which is mandatory, they call them administrators and you always have to have one administrator present at all times for the 14 windows. A few days before we opened, half of our staff was rejected by the municipality. They weren\u2019t allowed to work for us due to past violations. So we opened with hardly any staff and financially in the red. And that was the start. You can imagine that it has been tough.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16012 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-My-Red-Light-Opened-.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam Brothel My Red Light Opened\" width=\"800\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-My-Red-Light-Opened-.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-My-Red-Light-Opened--300x158.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-My-Red-Light-Opened--768x403.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Whats_your_opinion_on_project_1012_and_the_closure_of_window_brothels_by_the_City_of_Amsterdam_in_the_Red_Light_District\"><\/span>What\u2019s your opinion on project 1012 and the closure of window brothels by the City of Amsterdam in the Red Light District?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s an unheard of hypocrisy. Look, that you have a kind of natural political distrust as a citizen seems normal to me, that\u2019s also the field of tension we all act in, as a citizen you have to look critically and they look critically at us. But what I\u2019m experiencing since working at this brothel as chairman of the board, and what I see politicians do over the backs of prostitutes, well I have led a turbulent life and I find these moves that are made by politicians and councils really outrageous. I find it unheard of and that it can all happen with the approval of the right-minded people in the Netherlands who hold key positions within our society or researchers who know perfectly well that the figures they use aren\u2019t correct.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>&#8220;prostitution touches so many strings with people that they completely go off track.&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In one way or the other, the subject of prostitution touches so many strings with people that they completely go off track. And that this can happen in a fairly restrained country like the Netherlands, where we talk things out, act rationaly and \u201cpolder\u201d, that there is a constant secret. Project 1012 is simply a secret agenda. It\u2019s very simple, the goal is the removel of prostitution from the Red Light District. The joke is that it\u2019s completely obvious to everyone but no one speaks of it, those who pronounce it are not heard. That is the game. It\u2019s not easy as a citizen to say to a respected politician that he has a secret agenda. Especially when you\u2019re a sex worker, everyone will just roll their eyes. It seems to be that if you are, or have been a sex worker, you\u2019re a kind of mindless amphibian who can no longer identify things or think, that is the general tenor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>&#8220;I\u2019m disappointed in the system, even at this age.&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16009 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Street-1.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam Brothel Street\" width=\"800\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Street-1.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Street-1-300x160.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Street-1-768x409.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m disappointed in the system, even at this age. And working in the system, it does more with you than I\u2019d orignally thought. The whole board, not only me but also my colleague Marcel Heyman and a third secret board member, really experienced a personal crisis because our picture of humanity and our image of society changed. It sounds very bombastic but I mean it seriously. We\u2019ve had sleepless nights. Before this project we all had three normal and long careers. But now we were suddenly in a place where we saw that a completely different game was played. A game that was impossible to win. I can tell you if you are used to having opertunities and taking them that a guerenteed bad outcome really gives you a stomach ache.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"So_does_project_1012_directly_and_indirectly_ensure_that_the_sex_workers_who_work_with_you_get_fewer_customers\"><\/span>So does project 1012 directly and indirectly ensure that the sex workers who work with you get fewer customers?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:\u00a0<\/strong>Of course, everyone knows that. Tourism is so gigantic these days. As a customer you try and go to the prostitute around 11:00, chances are that you have to go in under loud applause from 146 drunken Englishmen, and who wants that? Going to a prostitute is a game of eroticism and sexuality, of the forbidden but still desiring. It\u2019s an intimate game you play from the moment you look at each other, there is a foreplay and a follow-up. You do not want that under the eyes of 1000\u2019s of tourists. But that is not the worst. To then close down more Amsterdam brothel and to state &#8220;gosh, how is it that it\u2019s so busy in the Red Light District?!&#8221; whilst you&#8217;ve just closed down 200 window brothels, forcing the tourists to walk around in a much smaller area. I\u2019m stunned by this, I mean, this would an interesting case for a parliamentary inquiry. How can right-thinking people do this? That they can close down window brothels and then with each other, I\u2019m talking about the Dutch intelligentsia, act surprised about what happens.<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16111 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Alley.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam Brothel Alley\" width=\"800\" height=\"551\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Alley.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Alley-300x207.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Amsterdam-Brothel-Alley-768x529.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"I_think_that_when_most_people_think_of_prostitution_one_of_the_first_things_that_comes_to_their_minds_is_illegal_or_forced_prostitution_How_do_you_prevent_women_from_being_forced_to_work_at_your_Amsterdam_brothel\"><\/span>I think that when most people think of prostitution, one of the first things that comes to their minds is illegal or forced prostitution. How do you prevent women from being forced to work at your Amsterdam brothel?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> I can\u2019t, it\u2019s as simple as that. Because a lady can say that she does not work for someone and that she does not hand over her money. I just rent out windows. So when she comes home and she gives her money to someone, I can\u2019t see that. I don\u2019t know if she\u2019s in a very bad situation at home either. So we\u2019re absolutely not free from any compulsion or human trafficking. What we do is that we build a relationship with our renters. This does not mean that we are free of these dangers, but we do see it when a women changes or when something is going on.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>&#8220;It\u2019s not always the case that if we find that there is coercion, the lady also experiences it as coercion.&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We have contact in such a way with many ladies that at some point they also tell things. In that way we can offer something extra. We can\u2019t drag them out of that situation, of course, because that would mean using force too. And the boundary between coercion and the feeling that you still have a choice is a grey area for the girls. It\u2019s not always the case that if we find that there is coercion, the lady also experiences it as coercion. It\u2019s difficult matter. But we are extremely involved with them and if we signal something, we will talk to them. So that means you&#8217;re trying to lower the threshold for them to talk about it.<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/fr\/tour\/amsterdam-brothel-tour\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-16017 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-My-Red-Light.jpg\" alt=\"Amsterdam Brothel My Red Light\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-My-Red-Light.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-My-Red-Light-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Amsterdam-Brothel-My-Red-Light-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_do_you_think_should_be_improved_in_the_Red_Light_District\"><\/span>What do you think should be improved in the Red Light District?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>J:<\/strong> There really should be a taskforce. I have enough ideas, no shortage of those for me, but it&#8217;s not about my ideas. There are two structural big problems where things went wrong. Number one: the political motives behind 1012 weren\u2019t made public. They started a project where they pretended to have certain goals, but beneath the service the goals were completely different. Two: all the knowledge and skills that are present in the Netherlands weren\u2019t consulted. How is it possible that you start a project without talking to universities where research has been done into tourist flows, how crowds of people move? A lot of research has been done about this subject, also in the other cities in Europe. How is it possible that they never sat at the table? These are the most basic of things. At this time the debate has warped into trench warfare; parties have dug themselves in and there is no sensible conversation to be had. It is beneath all levels.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>&#8220;the debate has warped into the First World War. Parties have dug themselves in and there is no sensible conversation to be had.&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I see only one solution and that is a taskforce where people are obliged to commit and leave their own standards at the meeting room door and really look at the issues objectively. That starts with what Amsterdam wants with its tourism, and that\u2019s question one. What does the City of Amsterdam want with its residents? Do they want vacancy in the city center or not? In the 1980\u2019s we had vacancies in city center here and you know what happened to the city. Taskforce means that you first lay down a number of basic starting points for the larger urban design goals and from there you descend into how you should carry it out at the micro level. Look, and if they just honestly say we want prostitution gone from the city center, fine, but then we&#8217;re going to talk about that and we&#8217;re going to see how we can shape that policy. But do not say that you want it and then continuously work against it. I think that residents and entrepreneurs alike have just as much need for transparency. We need transparency a task force and a 15-year plan.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Justine le Clercq On The Amsterdam Brothel Business Back in 2016 it was announced that the Startfoundation &#8211; an independent social development company &#8211; would start working on setting up the brothel My Red Light in Amsterdam &#8211; better known as the &#8216;municipality brothel&#8217;. 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